Bill Freeman serves as Chairman of Freeman Webb, Inc., a real estate investment, management and brokerage company he co-founded with James A. Webb, III in 1979.
In 1978, Freeman became director of Downtown Urban Development for the Metropolitan Nashville Development and Housing Agency (MDHA), a position he held for a year before founding Freeman Webb, Inc. at age 28. Prior to his work for the city, he spent four years as a real estate securities sales representative with Freeman Brothers Realtors, where he was involved in land sales and the packaging and sale of income-producing real estate syndications.
Freeman’s career in real estate began as a teenager, when he held a summer job as a maintenance man and groundskeeper at family-owned apartment complexes. At 16, he became the youngest person in the country to graduate from the Realtors’ Institute and receive the GRI designation, and at 17, he acquired his first piece of income-producing real estate.
He is a member of the Nashville Board of Realtors, the Tennessee and National Associations of Realtors and the Realtors National Marketing Institute. He has chaired or served on numerous committees with these organizations throughout his career. A Certified Real Estate Appraiser, he has served as an instructor in commercial investment real estate for the Nashville Board of Realtors and in real estate syndication for the Tennessee Real Estate Institute. He is certified to market and sponsor real estate securities by the Real Estate Securities Syndication Institute and is a past president of the institute’s Tennessee Chapter.
A strong supporter of charitable and community organizations throughout his career, he has served on the boards of the Tennessee State University Foundation, the Nashville Area YMCA, the Nashville Public Television Council and Children’s House. An alumnus of the Leadership Nashville program (1979-1980), he has served as commissioner of the Nashville Convention Center and on the board of The Tennessee Housing Development Agency. He was named Man of the Year by the Nashville Area Junior Chamber of Commerce in 1977.
Jimmy Webb has served as President of Freeman Webb, Inc., a real estate brokerage, acquisition and management company, since he and William H. (Bill) Freeman founded the company in 1979.
Webb, who graduated from Montgomery Bell Academy and Vanderbilt University, in Nashville, Tennessee, began his career as a commissioned officer in the United States Navy where he served in Vietnam and later in New Zealand with Operation Deep Freeze, which is the U.S. scientific study of Antarctica. Before his honorable discharge in 1975, he had received the Navy Commendation Medal and the Navy Unit Citation.
In 1975 Webb joined the firm of McKee, Geny & Thornton as an insurance account executive. He then left the firm in 1979 to co-found Freeman Webb, Inc, a real estate investment firm which owns and manages 10,000+ apartments and one million square feet of commercial space in the southeastern United States.
In addition to providing business management and financial and insurance expertise to the company, Webb is an active supporter of community and charitable organizations. He is a past- chairman of the YMCA of Middle Tennessee, the ninth largest YMCA in the United States, and is past-president of Sister Cities of Nashville and is a founding and current member of the Executive Board of the Nashville Zoo which opened in 1991. He is the current Chairman of the Board of Directors of Montgomery Bell Academy.
He is a former board member of the Better Business Bureau of Nashville, the Nashville Area Chamber of Commerce and has served on the Chamber’s Urban Planning/Land Use Committee, Buddies of Nashville, the March of Dimes, Nashville City Bank, Tennessee Vietnam Veterans Leadership Program, Tennessee State University Foundation, and the Junior Chamber of Commerce.
Webb and his wife, Becky Smotherman Webb, reside in Nashville. They have three adult sons living in Dallas, Nashville, and New York City.
Before joining Freeman Webb in 2014, W. Kirby Davis, Jr. served as Executive Vice President and ultimately President of First Management Services based in Nashville, TN managing approximately 5,000 multifamily units in Tennessee, as well as over 700,000 s.f of shopping centers.
Prior to his tenure in property management, Kirby received his law degree from The University of Tennessee at Knoxville, where he graduated Order of the Coif. He then served as a law clerk to the Honorable L. Clure Morton, United States District Judge from 1983 to 1985. After completing his clerkship, Kirby worked in New York as an attorney in the offices of William S. Friedman, who at that time, was Vice Chairman of Southmark Corporation - a $9 billion real estate syndication firm. Kirby is licensed to practice law in Tennessee and several of the federal circuits.
Kirby returned to Nashville in 1986 to work for Mid-South Financial, a Nashville based mortgage brokerage firm, originating mortgage loans and brokering investment real estate. In his three years at Mid-South Financial, he financed and sold over $100 million of real estate.
Davis also lends his expertise to a variety of charitable, civic, and professional organizations. He is a past President of the Greater Nashville Apartment Association (GNAA) and the Tennessee Apartment Association, and continues to serve on the board of the GNAA. He served in 2007 as chairman of the Nashville Downtown Partnership and currently serves on the board of that organization. In 2008, he was named Volunteer of the Year by the Nashville Downtown Partnership and received that award again in 2013 as part of the How’s Nashville team that is focused on ending
He served on the board of the Baptist Healing Trust from 2005-2011. Kirby is also an advisory board member of the Faith Family Medical Clinic.
He and his wife Ann have two children. He currently chairs the housing subcommittee of How’s Nashville.
Judy Beasley joined Freeman Webb in 1997 as General Counsel and continues to head up the firm's in-house legal department in addition to being named Executive Vice President in 2000.
Prior to joining Freeman Webb, Beasley was in private practice with the Nashville law firm of Stewart, Estes & Donnell, where she specialized primarily in employment law. She is a graduate of Hillwood High School in Nashville, Tennessee, and a Phi Beta Kappa graduate of the University of Florida, where she received her Bachelor of Arts and Juris Doctorate degrees with honors and served as a legal writing instructor. Beasley was a National Merit Scholar and former law clerk to the Honorable Thomas W. Brothers of the Sixth Circuit Court of the Twentieth Judicial District of Tennessee. She is a member of the Tennessee and Nashville Bar Associations and the Nashville chapter of the Lawyers Association for Women.
Judy Beasley and her husband, Dan Hamm, live in Nashville with their son.
Matt Olson is the Vice President of Acquisitions and Asset Management at Freeman Webb. Mr. Olson began his career with Ernst & Young's real estate consulting practice in New York; assisting client's with buy-side and sell-side due diligence, portfolio transactions, real estate valuations, and strategic loan workouts. During his tenure at EY, he assisted in drafting the training manual for Fannie Mae's Multifamily DUS loan underwriting program, underwriting more than $3 billion of CMBS loans and worked with clients to divest more than $2.5 billion in commercial real estate and loans during the recession.
Matt currently serves on the Statistic Committee for the Greater Nashville Apartment Association and the Young Leaders Group Mentor Committee for the Nashville Chapter of Urban Land Institute. He is a prior member of the Mortgage Bankers Association and Commercial Real Finance Committee. Matt graduated with dual majors in Real Estate & Urban Land Economics and Finance, Investment & Banking from the University of Wisconsin - Madison. He now resides in Nashville, TN with his wife and daughter.
Tommy Bumpous is the Vice President of Construction for Freeman Webb, Inc. and Rehab Specialists of Tennessee, Inc., the Construction division of Freeman Webb Companies.
Tommy has been in the construction industry, primarily construction management, since 1984. A graduate of Middle Tennessee State University, he began his career in Nashville with Ward & Associates, a general contractor specializing in luxury residential, multifamily, and commercial construction in Tennessee and Texas. After six years with Ward & Associates, he held general management and vice presidential level positions with four regional general contracting firms performing construction of residential, multifamily, and commercial projects.
He and his wife, Jamie, have three children and reside in Thompson's Station.
As Vice President of Operations, Chari Lewis is responsible for directing and supporting our teams as they strive for excellence daily. Prior to joining Freeman Webb, Chari was Director of Real Estate for Greystar, Area Vice President for Lincoln and Chief Operating Officer for Evergreen Real Estate. She brings a wealth of knowledge and experience to the team having managed properties of all ages, classes and in several markets from new construction lease up, acquisitions, through renovations and dispositions.
Chari is an accomplished property management professional who has worked in the apartment industry since 2000 and has been awarded several top honors for her professional service to the industry. She is a member of the Institute of Real Estate Management (IREM®), having recently served as 2016 President for the Greater Nashville Chapter. Chari is also a member of the National Apartment Association, currently serving as the Leadership Lyceum Chair for the Greater Nashville Chapter where she was the 2009 Chapter President. Chari is a graduate of the NAA Leadership Lyceum Program as well as the NAA Advanced Instructor Training and holds the following designations: Certified Apartment Manager (CAM), Certified Apartment Supervisor (CAPS) and Certified Property Manager (CPM®). Chari lives in Lebanon with her husband Mark and son William.
Patti Ruccio is a 1984 graduate of the University of Alabama at Tuscaloosa, where she earned her Bachelor of Arts degree in Communications with a major in Public Relations. She entered the property management field upon graduating from U of A and has been engaged in the profession since.
Before joining Freeman Webb in 2014, Patti Ruccio served as Regional Manager and Vice President of First Management Services based in Nashville, TN. She has overseen operations on A, B, C, and D properties in Tennessee, Alabama, Georgia and Mississippi and worked with several properties in turnaround situations. Her current portfolio includes multi-family properties ranging in size from 101-595 units.
Mrs. Ruccio obtained her Certified Property Manager (CPM) designation from the Institute of Real Estate Management (IREM) in 1994, and currently serves as Executive CPM for Freeman Webb. She is a founding member and Board member of the Apartment Association of Greater Knoxville and past president of The Tennessee Apartment Association. She has also served on various committees of the Nashville IREM chapter. She holds a Tennessee Broker's license. Mrs. Ruccio resides in Nashville, Tennessee with her husband and three children.
Originally, from St. Louis, MO, Nancy Morris has been in the Property Management business for nearly 34 years. As the Vice President of Procurement, Training and Marketing, she oversees the operations standpoint of searching out the best vendor services possible for Freeman Webb. Furthermore, she works with our Director of Digital Marketing to better assess the digital platforms used by our properties. She also works with our Director of Training and Marketing to ensure our teams are well trained in property management, procedurally on company policies and establishing outstanding Marketing Plans to assist the property in outreach efforts to maintain high occupancies. Before this position with Freeman Webb, she over saw 11 diverse multi-family properties as Regional Manager.
Nancy joined Freeman Webb in 2014. Prior to this, Nancy was a Vice President with Sentinel Real Estate for 25 years with responsibilities for 34 properties in 15 states. Gaining invaluable expertise while overseeing the portfolio to understand each properties market position and develop a strategic plan for each community.
Nancy is an active member in the Greater Nashville Apartment Association since 1988, serving on the board of directors and held the position of Chairman of the Board in 1996. She achieved her ARM designation with IREM and plans to work toward her CPM designation. Nancy resides in Brentwood, TN with her husband Harold, they enjoy Cedar Creek Yacht Club, tennis, travel, Titans football and being with family and friends.
Elizabeth Mathis has been with Freeman Webb since 2012, when she was hired as Associate General Counsel. In 2018, she added Risk Management responsibilities to her charge, garnering a promotion and current title of Associate General Counsel and Risk Manager.
Elizabeth, a Nashville Native, received her law degree from Cumberland School of Law at Samford University in Birmingham, Alabama, where she focused on Alternate Dispute Resolution. She is a Phi Beta Kappa graduate of the University of Tennessee in Knoxville, Tennessee where she received her Bachelor of Arts with high honors.
Elizabeth is a member of the Nashville Bar Association, the legislative committee for the Greater Nashville Apartment Association (GNAA), and has received her Tax Credit Specialist certification.
Elizabeth resides in East Nashville and enjoys volunteering as a Court Appointed Special Advocate (CASA) for Davidson County, practicing yoga, and spending time with friends and family.
Jason Powell is the Director of Business Development for Freeman Webb, actively pursuing new fee-management opportunities and potential corporate or portfolio acquisitions. Powell has been active in real estate sales, investments and property management for over 11 years. He is a licensed Tennessee real estate broker and is currently pursuing a Master of Business Administration from the University of Memphis while holding a Master in Public Administration from Tennessee State University and a Bachelor of Arts from the University of Colorado.
Powell is a State Representative for District 53 in the Tennessee General Assembly serving on the Business and Utilities Committee. He resides in Nashville with his wife and two children.
Steve Woodard has served as Controller of Freeman Webb, Inc. since December 1990.
In 1980 Steve joined Hurd Investment Properties, Inc. as a staff accountant and in 1985 was named Comptroller of that firm. In December 1990, Hurd Investment Properties, Inc. merged with Freeman Webb, Inc. and at that time Steve assumed his current position with Freeman Webb.
Woodard graduated from the University of Tennessee in 1980 with a Bachelor of Science in business administration degree with an emphasis in accounting. He has been a Certified Public Accountant since 1987. He is a member of the American Institute of Certified Public Accountants and the Tennessee Society of Certified Public Accountants.
Steve and his wife, Susan Sanders, live in Nashville.
Jessica Humphrey serves as the Compliance Director of Freeman Webb Co., Realtors.
She started in the industry as a leasing consultant for Lighthouse Property Management and, after demonstrating her skills and understanding of the LIHTC program, was quickly brought into the compliance department as a specialist. She then served as Compliance Manager for Elmington Property Management helping oversee over 9,000 affordable multi-family units. She holds the designation of Housing Credit Certified Professional. A native of Tennessee, Jessica is an avid kayaker and enjoys spending time with her family.
Zachary Guest is the Director of Information Technology for Freeman Webb, who is an innovative leader focused on practical and progressive technology initiatives. He is responsible for all oversight of Freeman Webb’s information and technology platforms. As a member of Freeman Webb’s leadership team, Zachary contributes to Freeman Webb’s strategic direction by using information and technology to reduce cost, improve operational process efficiencies and maximize revenue, while drawing from his prior experience in various industries such as Healthcare/Marine Shipping/Telecommunications. Zachary received his Bachelors of Business Administration and majored in Computer Information Systems from Middle Tennessee State University.
Mr. Guest resides in Nashville, TN with his wife, Suzanne, and their two sons.
Prior to her tenure in property management, Erika attended Pepperdine University on an acting scholarship. After completing a Bachelor of Arts degree from the University of Alabama, Erika began her career in Hollywood, CA, serving as the Marketing Assistant for a live concert production company. From there, she moved into the publishing arena in Los Angeles, CA – serving as the Online Editor for Timeless Communications and eventually becoming the General Manager for Austin Burbank Media. Responsibilities included overseeing editorial and advertising in print and online, the development and marketing of new products, and events management.
After relocating to the Southeast, Erika found her home with Freeman Webb in 2007, where she currently serves as the Director of Digital Marketing & Interactive Services, handling digital marketing/communications for the company.
Erika resides in Knoxville, TN with her husband, son, and their 3 dogs.
Dee Wilson started in multi-family property management in 2005 after assisting with the startup of the TN Education Lottery between the years of 2003-2005. She studied advertising, marketing and public relations at Middle Tennessee University while working in property management, where she fell in love with this industry and decided to make it her career.
Dee accepted a position with First Management as the marketing and leasing director at Gazebo Apartments where she assisted in the marketing and re-branding of Gazebo during a multi-million dollar renovation. She assisted with training team members both at her community and others before being offered the Director of Training position with Freeman Webb in February 2017. She is a certified trainer with the Association for Talent Development and a certified trainer through Franklin Covey.
Dee resides in Nashville, which has always been home to her. She enjoys spending time with friends and family.
Mark Fiscus joined Freeman Webb with 38 years of property management experience. His tenure began with The Oxford Group, followed by Trammell Crow, Gables Residential, SWH Properties, and NTS Development. He has been honored at each company by receiving their highest awards, including the prestigious "I Made a Difference Award", and "The President’s Award".
Mark earned his Certified Pool Operator (CPO) designation from the National Swimming Pool Institute in 1981, obtained his Certified Apartment Maintenance Technician (CAMT) designation from the National Apartment Association in 1983, and received his HVAC certification from the Refrigeration Service Engineers Society in 1991. He has also been an active contributor in the industry, serving as a trainer for the CAMT program, as well as serving on the GNAA publications committee for 4 years.
Mark enjoys all sports and has an affinity for collecting sports memorabilia, historical memorabilia, and antiques. He has 3 grown children – his youngest son, whom he lives with in Bellevue, TN, a daughter who lives in Minneapolis, and a son who lives in San Antonio.
Rod Beverstein began his career in the field of real estate management and sales in 1970, after receiving his Bachelor of Science degree from the University of Wisconsin at Oshkosh. He began his tenure with Freeman Webb in 2002 lending his expertise to a multitude of property management arenas, including commercial, conventional multifamily, bond-financed, Section-236, Section-8, Section-42, and Farmer's Home multifamily property management. He is also active with HUD, PHA's, monitoring agencies, asset managers, lenders, and owners.
Rod is the founding director of the Green Bay Apartment Owner's and Manager's Association. He is also a Certified Property Manager and a Certified Tax Credit Specialist. He has also held real estate licenses in multiple states.
Rod lives in the greater Nashville area with his wife and enjoys reading, sports, and spending time with his children and grandchildren.
Ken Britton joined Freeman Webb Company in 2009 as a Regional Manager. In this role, he oversees conventional, tax credit, and fee-managed properties, and he has supervised student and senior housing communities, new construction lease-ups, and major property renovations.
Prior to joining Freeman Webb Company, Ken was a regional property manager for The K & D Group, located in Northeast Ohio, responsible for over 2,800 residential units.
Ken began his career in property management and finance over 25 years ago, first joining Key Bank (FKA Society Bank) in Cleveland, Ohio, as a credit analyst and loan officer. He then entered the property management industry in 1988 when forming Eastwing Properties, Inc. As owner and president of this company, he managed residential homes and apartment buildings throughout the greater Cleveland area. In 1993, Ken expanded his management responsibilities by joining Cleveland-based Associated Estates Realty Corporation, first serving as a property manager, then as a regional manager operating high-rise apartment communities in a REIT ownership capacity.
Ken volunteers his time and construction skills to Tuckers House, a Nashville non-profit organization that assists children with disabilities through home modifications for accessibility and safety.
Ken received his B.S. in Business Administration from Bowling Green State University in Bowling Green, Ohio, in 1984. He resides with his wife, Pamela, and three sons in Franklin, TN.
Prior to starting her career in Property Management, Traci served our country for 10 years in the United States Air Force as an Administrative Manager. Traci has more than 18 years of property management experience. Originally from Florida, she started in the property management field working as a Housing Technician for the Brevard County, Florida Housing Authority and then was quickly promoted as a property manager. After working for several large property management companies in various cities such as Rockledge, Florida, Charleston, South Carolina and Savannah, Georgia, Clarksville, Tennessee; Traci joined Freeman Webb in 2007. After being with Freeman Webb for 6 years with dual roles as Property Manager and Multi-Site Manager, Traci was promoted to Regional Manager.
Traci is a Certified Apartment Manager (CAM) and is a member of the Greater Nashville Apartment Association. In 2013, she earned her Bachelor of Science degree from Southern Bible Institute and Seminary. She received her Certified Apartment Portfolio Supervisor (CAPS) certification in 2017.
She devotes her free time to volunteering with her church Living Water Church in Bowling Green, KY with such activities as Feeding the Homeless, Street Ministry, and serving as Administrative Tech Support for Living Water Live Bible Study and The Global on Demand School of Ministry (GODSOM).
Traci lives in Davidson County with her puppy Skittles and enjoys cooking, traveling, music and photography. She has one son who resides in Bowling Green, KY.
Deanna Hill is a 1985 graduate of the University of Tennessee, where she earned her Bachelor of Science degree in Business Administration with a major in Accounting. Immediately upon graduation, she entered the property management field and has spent her career in the profession since. Prior to joining Freeman Webb through a merger in 2014, Deanna worked for 25 years with First Management Services, where she served as a Regional Manager. She has overseen renovations at multiple properties. Her portfolio has included multifamily, commercial, and homeowner associations.
Deanna earned her Certified Property Manager (CPM) designation from the Institute of Real Estate Management (IREM) in 1998. She is past president of the Apartment Association of Greater Knoxville and now serves as a lifetime board member. She is also past president of the East Tennessee Chapter of IREM and past president of the Tennessee Apartment Association. She holds a Tennessee Broker's license and a South Carolina Property Manager's license.
Deanna and her husband, Richard, reside in Knoxville, TN.
Julie Maynor brings 14 years of experience in Property Management to Freeman Webb. As a Regional Manager she oversees on-site administration of accounting functions, marketing, and leasing efforts of several properties, which are located throughout Tennessee and in Missouri.
Julie began her career in property management in 2000 as a Leasing Agent and was quickly promoted to a Property Manager. After 12 years of experience on-site Julie was promoted to a Regional Manager.
She is a member of the Chattanooga Apartment Association and holds an active certification as an ARM (Accredited Resident Manager) through IREM. She devotes her free time to volunteering with local pet adoption centers in Chattanooga and participating in Project Homeless Connect an organization dedicated to helping the homeless.
She lives with her son, an active soldier in the Army Reserves, in Chattanooga.
Joe Sharp, CAPS, joined Freeman Webb in November 2017, bringing over 40 years of property management experience to the team. In addition to 32 years managing in the conventional market, including 17 years as President of his own full service investment property management firm, Joe spent 10 years managing approximately 28,000 homes for military families in 7 states.
Joe is an alumnus of the University of Texas at Austin, School of Engineering. He is a licensed Texas and Tennessee Real Estate Broker, and holds the designation of Certified Apartment Portfolio Supervisor (CAPS) from the National Apartment Association.
Joe has served as the President of the Austin Apartment Association (1985), the Texas Apartment Association (1998), and served as the Chairman of the Board of the National Apartment Association in 2006.
Zac Ward brings 14 years of experience in Property Management to Freeman Webb. As a Regional Manager, he oversees a diverse portfolio of properties.
Zac began his career in property management in 2005 as a second-generation apartment professional. He started as a Leasing Agent and was offered a traveling role where he trained and assisted properties in need of occupancy gains. After the economic downturn caused the elimination of his position, he came to work at First Management and Freeman Webb. His teams would go on to win Property of the Year three times in five years.
He is an Executive Committee member of the Greater Nashville Apartment Association and serves as IREM Nashville President, where he obtained his CPM® designation. Zac is passionate about our industry and enjoys mentoring and training others. He believes empowering his teams is the key to building exceptional results and developing future leaders.
Jody Boles is a 1995 graduate of Middle Tennessee State University where she received her Bachelor of Science degree in Psychology with minors in English and Sociology. Prior to the 2014 merger with Freeman Webb Company, she was employed by First Management Services for nineteen years where she gained both residential and commercial experience.
Jody began her career in real estate as a receptionist and administrative assistant for First Management Services working under multiple property managers which lead to her first residential assignment as manager of a 574 lot Homeowner's Association. Her interests soon turned to commercial real estate at which time she obtained her affiliate broker's license from the Nashville School of Real Estate. Since that time, she has managed, leased and sold both residential and commercial property with an emphasis on retail shopping centers such as the historical Arcade downtown, two large-scale centers located in Lebanon and Mt. Juliet, a 60 tenant office building and multiple other retail centers and condo communities scattered throughout Nashville, TN. Jody is a member of ICSC and has served on the Nashville Downtown Partnership Retail Committee.
Jody resides in Franklin, TN with her husband, Will, and their 2.5 year old daughter, Chloe. In her spare time, Jody enjoys reading, writing and spending quality time with family.
Betsy E. Chandler brings 27 years of commercial real estate experience to Freeman Webb. Since joining our team in 1997, Betsy has specialized in both the management and leasing of office and retail properties. She is currently responsible for both the management and leasing of Freeman Webb's Middle Tennessee area office portfolio.
Prior to joining Freeman Webb, Betsy began her career in real estate with a local development company. Responsibilities included managing and leasing over 1 million square feet of retail space throughout the southeast.
Over the past 9-years, Betsy has successfully negotiated leases for Freeman Webb's office portfolio in excess of $15 million and has maintained occupancy at all of the properties in her office portfolio at 90% or better during that time. During her 22-year tenure with Freeman Webb, Betsy has been awarded Property Manager of the Year, Excellence in Property Management, Property of the Year, or Excellence in Leasing 14 times.
Betsy holds a CPM designation, is a CCIM candidate, and is a member of The Institute of Real Estate Management, the National Association of Realtors, and Women in Commercial Real Estate. She is an active community volunteer, and has been involved locally with Big Brothers Big Sisters, Susan Komen, Hope Lodge, The Oasis Center, Nashville Humane Association, American Lung Association, Tennessee Environmental Council, and Hands on Nashville. She serves on the board for the MetroCenter Improvement Association and an advisory position with the MetroCenter Project Review Committee.
Betsy is an honors graduate of Vanderbilt University and holds a Bachelor of Science in Chemistry with an emphasis in Pre-Med. She was an active member of Phi Mu, Alpha Omicron serving as Public Relations Chair and a member of Alpha Chi Sigma. During her freshman year, Betsy was given the distinguished honor of being selected as a Junior Senate page serving under Senator Victor Gaston.
Betsy and her husband Douglas reside in Nashville and enjoy boating, traveling, golfing, fishing, and SEC sports.